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22100080040000macadhocconferencecallminutesford3ballot
IEEEP802.22
WirelessRANs
MACAd-HocConferenceCallMinutesforD3Ballot
Date:
2010-06-14
Author(s):
Name
Company
Address
Phone
RangaReddy
USArmy
ranga.reddy@ieee.org
Abstract
Thisdocumentcontainstheminutesfor802.22MACAd-hocteleconferences,resolvingD3ballotcomments:
R0hastheminutesfortheteleconferenceheldonMondayMay24th2010at20:
00EDT.
R1isanupdatetotheminutesoftheteleconheldonMondayMay24th2010at20:
00EDT.
R2hastheminutesfortheteleconferenceheldonMondayMay31st2010at20:
00EDT.
R3hastheminutesfortheteleconferenceheldonMondayJune14th2010at20:
00EDT.
R4hastheminutesfortheteleconferenceheldonMondayJune16th2010at20:
00EDT.
Notice:
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//standards.ieee.org/guides/bylaws/sb-bylaws.pdf>,includingthestatement"IEEEstandardsmayincludetheknownuseofpatent(s),includingpatentapplications,providedtheIEEEreceivesassurancefromthepatentholderorapplicantwithrespecttopatentsessentialforcompliancewithbothmandatoryandoptionalportionsofthestandard."EarlydisclosuretotheWorkingGroupofpatentinformationthatmightberelevanttothestandardisessentialtoreducethepossibilityfordelaysinthedevelopmentprocessandincreasethelikelihoodthatthedraftpublicationwillbeapprovedforpublication.PleasenotifytheChair I.Attendance Name Affiliation 24May2010 31May2010 14June2010 16June2010 GeraldChouinard CRC X X X X WinstonCaldwell FOX X X X ApurvaMody BAESystems X X X X RangaReddy USArmy X X X X IvanReede Amerisys X X X JasonLi Wi-LAN X X II.2010-05-24Teleconference II.AAgenda 1)RecordAttendance 2)AskifeveryoneisfamiliarwiththeIEEEpatentpolicy: http: //standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.pdf 3)Approvetheagenda. 4)Review/proposecommentresolutionsforcommentsintheMACsection(Clause6)fromthelatestcommentdatabase: ∙DCN#22-10/78r5: https: //mentor.ieee.org/802.22/dcn/10/22-10-0078-05-0000-wran-draft-3-0-ballot-comments-database.xls 5)Otherbusiness. II.BNotes(2010-05-24) 1)RReddyrecordedtheattendanceat20: 05EDT. 2)AcitationtotheIEEEpatentpolicywasprovidedwiththeannouncementofthemeeting.Whenasked,noonenotifiedthechairmanthattheywereunfamiliarwiththeIEEEpatentpolicy. 3)Thewasnoformalagendaprovidedpriortothemeeting,nextweek’sannouncementwillbemorethorough. 4)Review/proposetheresolutionsforthefollowingcommentsinthedatabase: 22-10/78r5. CID141: In802.16,theycreateaMACPDUwithaGMHwithCID=PaddingCID.Itwasdecidedtogowiththesimplerapproach(in802.22),bypaddingtheextraspacewith0’swhicharethenfedintoascrambler,whichisthenmodulatedbytheDIUCorUIUCofthelastburstofthesubframeinquestion. Resolution: Accept CID226: RReddyproposedthatoneofthepossiblechangesistorestructuretheDS-MAPIEtomakethemthesamelength. GChounaird,Itwasfoundtobeunnecessary.EvenwithouttheextendedDIUCs,thetotalcountis37bitwhichwouldrequire3bitspaddingforeachIE.With50IEs,forexample,thispaddingwouldrepresent150bits.ItisbettertopaditonceattheendoftheDS-MAP. Resolution: Counter Action: AddpaddingbitstoTable35,andremovethepaddingbitsfromTables36,38,and39. CID227: BasedondiscussionforCID226,wedecidedtoacceptthismodificationatfacevalue. Resolution: Accept CID231: BasedondiscussionforCID226,wedecidedtoacceptthismodificationatfacevalue. Resolution: Accept CID249: GroupdecidedtoadoptedthesameapproachforUS-MAPandUS-MAPIEsaswasadoptedforDSinresolutiontoCID226/227/231. Resolution: Counter Action: AddpaddingbitstoTable46,andremovethepaddingbitsfromTables47,49,50,51,and52. CID262: BasedonourresolutiontoCID249,wedecidedtoacceptthiscomment. Resolution: Accept CID267: BasedonourresolutiontoCID249,wedecidedtoacceptthiscomment. Resolution: Accept CID263: ThegroupdecidedthattheorderoftheUS-MAPIEs(andcorrespondingUIUCs)shouldbeTable48followedbytheexplanationofEIRPUIUC=9forUS-MAPEIRPControlIE,thenCBPUIUCwhichisalreadyreferencedinTable48underUIUC=0,thenCDMAUIUCwhichisalreadyreferencedinTable48underUIUC=7(10-12arestillreserved)andthentheextendedUIUCandthelastsub-sectionbeingtheDummyExtendedUIUC. Resolution: Counter Action: GChouinardtoproducetextmodificationtoTable48andrenumberingofUS-MAPIErelatedsections CID260: BasedondiscussionforCID263,alsoagreedtodedicatedaspecificUIUCforInitialRanging(=8).AgreewithinclusionofnewUIUC=8fortheinitialrangingallocation.KeeptheextendedUIUCwithTable50andtheDummyapplicationwithTable51fortestpurposes. Resolution: Counter Action: GChouinardtomodifyTable48asdiscussed. CID229: DiscussionledgrouptoagreetokeeptheExtendedandDummyIEsforDS-MAPtoaccommodatefutureexpansion.WithregardtothiscommentnonewmodificationsarerequiredtoTables37,38,and39.Table40willbehandledbyresolutiontocomment228. Resolution: Counter CID228/230: GrouphadpreviouslyagreedtoacceptnewCIDmanagementapproachoriginallyproposedinDCN#22-09/112r1.Itwasagreedinprincipletoremovethe"IF(Include_CID)"rowand remove"N_CID"rowandremovethe"forloop"rowsincenoclearapplicationwasfoundfortheuseofmultipleCIDsforaDS-MAPIE.AlsoremovetheCIDSwitchextendedCID,thatissection6.10.2.1.2.2andTable40.AnewDCN#22-09/112r2needstobeuploadedbyRReddy,thatwillindicateallthespecificmodificationstodraftthatwillberequired.OnesuchmodificationiswillbetothestructureofDS-MAPIE. Resolution: Pending 5)OtherBusiness(furtherdiscussionviaEmail): CID226: InthecaseoftheDS-MAPinTable35,wenolongerneedthe4reservedbitsonrow4ifthepaddingbitstotheoctetboundaryisaddedattheendoftheTable.Also,thetwoextendedDIUCIEs(genericandDummyinTable38/39)shouldexpresstheirtotallengthsinbitswithan8bitLengthparameterandthepaddingbitsshouldberemovedfromTable38and39. Resolution: Counter,applythisnewresolutionforCID226. CID252: GChounaird: US-MAPCBPChannelIEisavariablesizeIEandshouldeitherinclude5paddingbitsbeforethe“Length”parameterandthe“CBPIEsrelayflag”shouldbebroughtforwardbeforethe“Length”parameterifwewanttokeepthelengthinoctets.Otherwise,the“Length”shouldbeexpressedinbitswithatleast7bits.Whatisthepreference? RReddy: Mypreference,basedonwhatwediscussedlastnightisthelatter.Expressethelengthinbits.Butis2^7=128enough? TheCBPburstisatotalof836bits.AccountingforCBPMACPDUheader,Istillthelength>128.PlusIhavesomeissueswithCBP,thatIwanttobringupduringtheCoexistenceandnextMACcalls.Wecaninitiateanotheremaildiscussionforthat. GChounaird: Agreewiththelengthinbits.However,thisIEonlytransmitstheCBPIEsthatneedtobeincludedtotheCBPattheCPE,nottheentireCBP.Isuggest8bitsforthelength,whichwouldgivesusupto31CBPIEstobeaddedtotheCBP.Thatshouldbeplenty.Iwillalignalltheotherlengthsto8bitsin#ofbits. RReddy: However,Gerald,regardingtheUS-MAPCBPChannellE.IknowthatCURRENTLYthisistospecifyhowmanyCBPIEsarebeinggiventotheCPEtousetoconstructaCBPBurst.Frankly,thisisafeaturethatI'mnotentirelycomfortablewith.IwouldbemoreinfavoroftheBSconstructingtheCBPburstandandjustusingtheCPEasadumbterminaltorelayit.ThiswouldsimplifytheCPE,e.g.allowconcentrationofCBPbursttxlogicandCBPsecurityattheBS.ThishasbeenbroughtinCID169-Apurva(discussedinBeijing)andCID408-myself.169hasbeencounteredandtheprinciplebehinditwasaccepted.So,asfarastheCBPChannelIEisconcerned,itshouldreallycoverthelengthoftheCBPburstminusCBPMACPDUheader(hopingthatCBPMACPDUheaderdoesn'thavevariablelength). Resolution: Defer. Action: NeedtocometofinaldecisionoffunctionalityofCBPtransmissionandsubsequentlythespecificsoftheUS-MAPCBPChannelIE.Thiswillalsoaffecttheresolutionof
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